March 26, 2009

Forward: “Great” people of the Bible

Posted in atheism, christianity, Conservatism, creationism, Philosophy & Politics, Sociology, World Wide Web tagged , , , , , , at 9:10 pm by Bram Janssen

Here’s a fine article written by ‘Atheist under UR bed’ posted on AnAtheist on what is really so great about the most revered people in the Bible. As it turns out, when you actually do the research and read the passages, there’s not much “great” to report.

6) Jacob – Isaac’s son, Jacob, had two wives (Gen. 29:15-30Open Link in New Window). He cheated his brother Esau out of both his birthright and their father’s blessing (Gen. 25:29-34Open Link in New Window; Gen. 27Open Link in New Window). Amazingly, even though Jacob acquired these things quite dishonestly, God didn’t protest in the least. Indeed, He honored Jacob exactly as He should have honored Esau (Gen. 28:12-17Open Link in New Window). (Whoever said “Crime doesn’t pay” never read the Bible!)

Excellent post and of the sort I wish I’d written.

Click here.



  1. Russ said,

    As it is written: “There is none righteous, no, not one; There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God. They have all turned aside; They have together become unprofitable; There is none who does good, no, not one.”

  2. mcoville said,

    So Bram Janssen, do you think of yourself as a better person than Jacob so that means there is no God?

    • Bram Janssen said,

      No, you don’t get it. What I like about that post is that these are all the “heroes” of the Bible, but upon closer inspection most of them have worse morals than … well most Christians today actually. God doesn’t look too good either in these passages, punishing all the wrong people for the wrong reasons.

  3. mcoville said,

    So Bram, do you think of yourself as a better person than Jacob?

    On a side note, Jacob is not a “hero” of the Bible. That is something they would say in a children’s coloring book and I would argue that term being given to Jacob or anyone else on the list you linked to.

  4. Russ said,

    …being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.

  5. Thomas Korn said,

    Its sad that you Christians will reply with assumptions that someone is better than someone else.. or that you just do not believe in god

    This is really pathetic … and ironic that its UN Christ like to pass judgments right off the bat. This makes me steer clear of Christianity all together.. Keep up the good work

  6. Russ said,


    If I have given the impression that I am better than others then… I was wrong in doing so.

    In fact that is why I am a Christian… not because I am good but because I am not good… I am a sinner. That is why I need a Savior. I am unable to approach this perfect, loving and holy God with all of this sin in my life. I need to be cleansed… I need to be made new.

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